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Now in the following movies how much creative control did you get because I can’t imagine some old white dude coming up with a “Pajama Jammy Jam.”

Play: We were fortunate enough to have black people who understood. Kid and I have been fortunate in all the movies we did even “Class Act” and that was written by a white guy we love named Randy Miller. We always had directors that trusted our instinct. They would ask us would this be said and how legitimate would it be. Sometimes we would just do it both ways and whichever one turned out better when you edit it that’s the one you did. Most of the time they let us do it any way we wanted to, but when there was a disagreement the compromise was we’ll do different takes of each person’s version.

We came up on Kid N Play so we were there for everything. Besides Hammer ya’ll the only rappers I know who had their own cartoon and Marvel comic book. What was that experience like.

Play: They always wanted us, even till today, to do TV. We weren’t really crazy about doing TV because at the time Eddie Murphy had advised us not to do TV unless you absolutely have too. At the same time at the time I had a child and I always wanted to do something to be immortalized for him at that age. So the idea came up to do that and that’s what happened. Same thing with the comic book. It was just like what was going on now you have to grow or you’re going to explode. It was just a natural thing and may have come off as a little premature but it tickles me now because a lot of cats who would be very vocal about crossing over and selling out look at this now. It’s the evolution of what’s to be. The only reason that it didn’t go longer is because a new NBC president came in and felt very strongly about live Saturday morning programming. That’s when Saved by the Bell and Hang Time and all those shows came in. If it wasn’t for that vision it would have lasted. It didn’t have anything to do with low ratings, it was just that the president wanted to aim at teens on Saturday mornings. Things gotta run their course and not saying it because I did it but if it wasn’t for a lot of those things happening I don’t know if a lot of people would be benefiting from what they are benefiting from now. Those things had to prove that it worked. Even when it was time to do House Party I was reluctant and out voted. I didn’t want to do House Party because of the track record of a Tougher Than Leather or a Krush Groove. Those were great movies looking back on it in retrospect but at the time they were box office failures. I didn’t want to be part of that humiliation. But House Party came out and did as well as it did. It cost over 5 million dollars to make it but it turned around and made over 30 million in a short time. I know it must be well over a 100 large now. From investment stats, percentages and averages that’s a businessperson’s dream.

You touched on it a little bit but what is something you feel Kid n Play is responsible for but you haven’t gotten your just due?

Play: I think we get our just due. I’m fine. I can’t really speak for Kid but from the dialogue we had he’s cool too. Everywhere I go its nothing but love. Sometimes you think that I have to have a record or film out now but when I’m around the current rappers today its nothing but love and respect. They kinda throw out the red carpet treatment. I’m just thankful to live long enough to see the fruits of labor. The new stuff I’m involved in I’m real excited about. I live life like everyone else, you have your ups and your downs but I know other cats who have been even more instrumental than Kid and I and they treat them unfair. I’m glad we don’t get it like that. I think Hammer did an incredible job for rap but sometimes he is like the butt of people’s jokes. I don’t think its fair. I think it’s unfair that how Public Enemy is treated. There should be a tribute to those cats and Big Daddy Kane.

Yea I remember hearing someone say how they slammed Hammer for doing KFC commercials but now you see mad heads doing things like that.

Play: That’s my point. Its like cats are seeing that maybe five plus years ago this would be crazy. The only one who has seemed to stick to his guns in regards to keeping it street is KRS-ONE. Everyone else is doing stuff that if you look five or ten years ago it would be like you sold out. You gotta make a decision do you want to make friends or do you want to be blessed and do you want to eat or do you want to be a starving artist. You can talk all that mess when you’re younger because you live in your mother and father’s house but when you end up having kids, you have mortgage and car notes to pay that keeping it street on the corner ain’t gonna hold too much water.

Are you still involved in the ministry?

Play: I’m involved in witnessing. My whole thing is hiphop and alternative hiphop that some would call Christian or Holy hiphop. My thing is its stuff that’s going to put light into people. If its gonna raise a question or talk about a problem its also going to supply an answer. I think other rap topics are good as well and this is what is going on but are we going to glorify it and pimp it or are we gonna come up with an answer. I don’t get preachy that’s not where we’re coming from. The cats that I support and represent are coming at it on a real interesting angle real soon.

Was there any particular situation that brought you closer to god?

Play: Just life. When you invest every dime and all your emotions and physical energy into something that you swear once you get it you’re there and come to find out your not. Your tired, in debt and all kinds of crazy stuff go on and come to find out its nothing but a big façade. All these people you grew up with under the belief that they made it, come to find out when you hang out with them and eat with them they share with you the hell they are going through. It’s like if you’re that happy why do you buy a new car every month. It’s an emptiness that’s not being fulfilled. If you got the car you love you not gonna do nothing with that for a long time. If you got the chain you love why do you have to keep switching it and making it bigger and bigger? Not to judge because I’ve been there and done that with the dooky rope chains, big medallions, and a series of Rolexes and all that. It’s like clothes, you swear when you get that one outfit you set and next thing you know it’s played out and now its time to get the newer version.

Are you doing anything with Frankie Cutlass?

Play: No not right now. He’s a very cool brother. He helped me and Salt out with this project we are getting ready to come out with at the end of the year called “Rise,” which is the first hiphop stage production of its kind. We taking it back doing old school, new school and crazy r&b tracks and at the end of the day its about what is it all for. We’re really excited about that and Frankie helped out a great deal getting the musical score together. Rockwilder did most of the stuff so it’s really hot. We got Whodini in it, Dana Dane, Kane, some possible participation with Dougie Fresh and Slick Rick. All that’s being discussed and negotiated. The only reason its taking so long to do is because we insisted that it have the same budget as when you are putting out a movie with all the publicity and bells and whistles that come along with it. Its gonna be kind of hard to ignore in a few months.

I read the press release and it said you took a lot from yours and Salt’s lives and incorporated it.

Play: That’s the inspiration. It’s a story about two people, a kid named Rapp and his sidekick. It’s based on a lot of real events and things from our experiences the good and the bad. A lot of comedy and serious moments. It’s really hot, a lot of money has been put into it. It’s me, her and we are backed by Allan Houston from the New York Knicks.

Are there specific morals or lessons to be learned from this or is it mostly entertainment?

Play: I guess you can look at it as edutainment. Its really a situation where you need to know your worth because if you don’t people will see it before you see it and if they’re not good people they are gonna use it and abuse it for all it’s worth and by the time you realize what you have unfortunately its too late. We don’t get all preachy and all sad it’s like everybody’s story you have the good, the bad, the great and sometimes the ugly.

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